John 8-58 before Abraham was, I am

John 8-58 :  "Truly, truly, I tell you…" 

Did we try to find out what Jesus?

The verse: John 8-58 : verily, verily, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am, the Fathers of the Catholic Church were not attentive, besides the Name “Eternal” attributed to “God” in the Old Testament . However, among the texts which served to constitute the New Testament, there were many texts provided with a great knowledge. However, these texts have been read and repeated for centuries in complete ignorance.

before Abraham was, I am : St John 8-58
St John 8-58 records the words of Jesus. Image (free) by Dorothée Quennesson - pixabay


I am

Exodus 3:11… 14 And God said to Moses: “I AM / WILL BE WHO I WILL BE (èhyèh asher’ èhyèh). ”
And he said: "Thus you shall speak to the children of Israel: I AM (èhyèh) has sent me to you."

"Biblical scholar Thomas Römer"



Now, not only the verse (John 8-58) should have prompted questioning, but the true meaning of Jesus' words, would perhaps also have made it possible to direct research beyond the biblical paths and even, beyond the biblical god. Since this original God, (personal opinion), would be a neutral God, not limited to either Scriptures or Religions. Now, the “Eternal” Name given to ”God” in the Old Testament comes - that is - from the expression “ I am [2] . Bible scholars like "Thomas Römer" will teach greatly. First of all, would we be tempted to wonder?


What is God?

How God manifested Himself, and How did God manifest himself? And, why, in the vastness of visible and invisible universes, has a tiny planet, Earth, been taken as the repository of a divine message?

Now, let's give the verse (John 58) a moment's attention, if you will. An in-depth study would have been superfluous on this page. Jesus' words seem to highlight the term “Eternity”. Let's try to make sense of the following title:


Jesus said to them: “… before Abraham was, I am. "

One might think that Jesus, intimately linked or imbued with the divinity, expresses through her (in him) something greater. In his Name, he, the intermediary, the messenger, the future Christ reveals the timelessness of this "something ..." Could it be an abstract and indefinable entity? Could this be a pure "Spirit [3] "? As for the divinity, would it be the emanation of a pure uncreated "Spirit"? From this point of view, if we wanted from the start to clarify the idea and probe the thought of Jesus, this would undoubtedly allow us to define one of the characteristics of "God", even if it would prove difficult. . Could we locate God in a space-time? Nevertheless, with regard to "God", could one approach the Truth, by formulating the following hypothesis; "One-Pure-Spirit — IS — Of-All-Eternity…"



By following this hypothesis, we could deduce, scientifically: before the supposed big-bang. Biblically: before Abraham was. Before, the incarnation of Jesus and before he was chosen. Before Biblical, Egyptian or Judaic Revelation… Before Materializable Creation. Before Creation appeared to the eyes of the seers ...

But did Jesus have to be enlightened, near and inseparable from a pure Spirit, to formulate such thoughts? Thoughts expressed in words misunderstood in his time and still today. By the way, one of the biggest shortcomings of this world is that we never wanted to know the celestial origin of man. Where does the error come from?



[1] The verse, (John 58), would illustrate John's prologue: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. "

[2] Exodus 3-14: “14 God said to Moses, I am he who am. And he added, This is how you will answer the children of Israel, He who is called "I am" has sent me to you. "

[3] If God exists, He is primarily "Spirit". So, one might think, The Spirit of God, (the), "Creator Breath" or, (the), Undefinable Principle essential and intrinsic to all things - was - "IS Of All Eternity". So, before the world is formed materially.

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St John By Maurice Guinguand

The esoteric writer Maurice Guinguand reveals an important and little-known point about St-John. “When Saint John wrote his Revelation, he was on the island of Pathmos in Greece. There he was able to meet a certain Priscilla in Pépésa who may have come from Phrygia (region of North-West Asia Minor). It has nothing to do with the Priscillians who two centuries later, created a particular sect, mixing a Christianity and a rather corrupt Manichaeism. Now, Priscilla possessed gifts of clairvoyance and especially of visions which enabled her to be able to give proof of a certain Christianity, or at least, of a certain mystical effect concerning Christ and concerning Christic visions as well. She also detailed: The New Jerusalem.

It must be recognized that in order to establish notions of New Jerusalem, it would have been necessary for her to know the writings of the Hebrew prophets, such as Ezekiel, and also to have knowledge of what Saint John wrote on The New Jerusalem in his Revelation. . This is therefore a point to be clarified unknown to writers or authors who deal with this subject ".


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